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« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2014, 03:23:13 PM »

You command a large amount of units on a grid where you must position them to attack foes right? That's a turn based strategy game, as opposed to real time strategy games like Starcraft where there is no grid, but rather an open map where units can move freely.

WRPG=Western RPG like TGN said.
So then what makes an RPG an RPG, exactly?
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« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2014, 04:05:00 PM »

Well, RPG=Role Playing Game
They're video games where you play out the role of a character on a grand quest. One key feature of an RPG is the levelng system to give a sense of progression as you become more powerful as you fill out your role on your quest...

But as time went on, other games start becoming story focused and using a leveling system, so rightly so, the idea of what a RPG is very skewed nowadays...

Sorry, I honestly can't properly answer that right now... I'll get back to you on that.
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« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2014, 06:45:40 AM »

Actually Fire Emblem IS a RPG.
Strategy RPG or Tactical RPG.
XCOM Enemy Unknown/Within and Disgea are actually the same genre as Fire Emblem.

Borderlands is also a RPG.

The whole genre thing is becoming kinda... silly... games do so many things nowdays.
Almost every game has some form of character progression and an advanced story nowdays - which is what originally made RPGs... RPGs. Back when games were just... blue good robot shoot evil robots.

I'd say an RPG is a game where you have the power of choice - and the choices are a necessity.

Should Micheal level his healing ability and Jeffery his strength?
Should you take the side quest for extra cash?
Should you give Milena the Orb-Suit, or should I give it Nancy?

You get the idea.

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A game is a computer RPG if it features player-driven development of a persistent character or characters via the making of consequential choices.

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Also, I think the terms 'JRPG' as well as 'WRPG' are really... ehhh...
Like, you're categorizing games by their land of origin...

Is that implying that no one japan could develop a first-person Action RPG game like Skyrim?
Is that implying that no one in america could develop a turn-based RPG game like Bravely Default? Or would that be a JRPG?  

No wait, it was right there... 'Turn-Based RPG' & 'First-Person Action RPG'...
Hm.

Or am I missing something?
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« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2014, 10:18:47 AM »

For once Kyo and I agree on something.

Though if I hear anyone using that Extra Credits argument I'm going to punch them.
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« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2014, 11:31:08 AM »

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Well that's a perspective of the "issue" that I can get by.

Though if I hear anyone using that Extra Credits argument I'm going to punch them.
I get where the got the idea, but eh.

I just know I like the anime looking ones which just so happen to mostly come from Japan.
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« Reply #20 on: February 03, 2014, 06:44:20 AM »

No one plays Hyperdimension Neptunia. Dammnit, Tana.


They should, it's a great game.

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« Reply #21 on: February 03, 2014, 07:27:45 AM »

Well ma'am, there's a clear enough distinction between the two that I think the differing genre titles is necessary.
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« Reply #22 on: February 03, 2014, 07:56:32 AM »

The only difference is country of origin.

Anyone can make any game they want. Any artstyle, any subject matter, any setting, any mechanics they want. They are not bound to a set of rules determined by the place in which they live.

So you can kindly fuck off. ^^
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« Reply #23 on: February 03, 2014, 08:05:19 AM »

The only difference is country of origin.

Anyone can make any game they want. Any artstyle, any subject matter, any setting, any mechanics they want. They are not bound to a set of rules determined by the place in which they live.

So you can kindly fuck off. ^^
It's a generalization, you salty asstart.
Sure anyone is allowed to make one, sure, but it's called a JRPG because many RPG games from Japan share similar elements and using the term makes it easier to explain.
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« Reply #24 on: February 03, 2014, 08:08:30 AM »

I dunno about that.
Japanese RPGS tend to have a more distinct way of telling their stories, doing their cutscenes, handling their combat, and choosing their art style than Western RPGs, right down to the voice acting.

I mean, when it comes to story focused projects like these, culture does take a big part in the production, and the difference in culture between those in the East, and those on the West seems to make them produce art of different and distinct results.

At least, that's what I've noticed.
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« Reply #25 on: February 03, 2014, 08:10:08 AM »

That doesn't make it correct.

I dunno about that.
Japanese RPGS tend to have a more distinct way of telling their stories, doing their cutscenes, handling their combat, and choosing their art style than Western RPGs, right down to the voice acting.


No, that's just you being ignorant. I can understand the culture part, but this is total bullshit and you know it.
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« Reply #26 on: February 03, 2014, 08:12:34 AM »

That doesn't make it correct.
Doesn't inherently make it wrong, either.
We could call them Titty Sprinkle Role Playing Games if you wanted. Would that make you feel better?
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« Reply #27 on: February 03, 2014, 08:19:35 AM »

No, that's just you being ignorant. I can understand the culture part, but this is total bullshit and you know it.
Arlight then, why don't you come up with a better acronym then?

How would you distinguish between them then?

Someone who doesn't like Elder Scrolls, but likes Persona? Doesn't like Mass Effect, but likes Ni No Kuni?, Doesn't like Dragon Age, but likes Final Fantasy?

Call them Realistic RPGs and Anime RPGs?
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« Reply #28 on: February 03, 2014, 09:37:03 AM »

How would you distinguish between them then?

You Don't
Do what Kyo said and define them by sub-genres. They're all RPG's, but they have different elements, none of those defined by where they come from.

"realistic RPGs and Anime RPGs"? Do you know how many people have done a double-take when I tell them Dark Souls is a Japanese game? How about Deep Down, would you call that a JRPG?  That's just an example of where lines become blurred between "JRPG" and "WRPG", as you call them.

oh hey, why don't we start calling other genres by their location too? Let's all call Zelda a JAdventure game, and Mario a JPlatformer!  Gran Turismo is a JRacing game! DMC is a JBeatem'up! Metal Gear is a JShooter!



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« Reply #29 on: February 03, 2014, 09:42:00 AM »

You Don't
Do what Kyo said and define them by sub-genres. They're all RPG's, but they have different elements, none of those defined by where they come from.
I thought JRPG was an RPG subgenre?

Either way it's just a name to make explaining things easier so I don't feel as strongly about it as you guys do.
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