4Kids is DEAD. What Does This Mean For Anime Coming to America?

[jkid101094]

Well recently 4Kids was sued (over Yu-Gi-Oh! Zexal, no less) resulting in the company becoming bankrupt after almost 50 years of activity. 4Kids wasn't always terrible (they were responsible for the first seasons of Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh! after all) however, it is no secret to the anime fan base that they're recent works were not as great.

So now with 4Kids kicking the bucket the rights to several anime (or, at least they're showing rights in the US) have been divided between several other companies. Does this, however, mean that the shows will be better off?

According to Wikipedia a company called KidsCo aquired the rights to Dragon Ball Z, Sonic X and Cubix. The name KidsCo may not ring any bells at first, which is understandable. In the past, however, KidsCo has obtained the rights to several other shows you may know such as The Super Mario Bros. Super Show, Sonic Underground, SATam, The Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog and Donkey Kong Country, as well as other well known children's shows such as The Magic Schoolbus and Franklin. What worries me as that the list of shows they've handled before doesn't include any anime whatsoever, mostly concerning American children's shows. While it's true that the shows they've acquired are already dubbed they could still make changes, no? KidsCo also acquired the 4Kids Saturday Morning television block so it's possibe some of the aforementioned shows could make their way back to television.

4K Acquisition Corp acquired the rights to the Yu-Gi-Oh! franchise. Luckily, for those of you who don't know, 4K is part of Konami, the guys who not only make games such as Metal Gear Solid, but the YGO card game as well.

So are things looking up for anime? Or have things just gone from bad to worse?

[Hakudamashi]

Donkey Kong had a cartoon? The f*ck?

[jkid101094]

Donkey Kong had a cartoon? The f*ck?

[Hakudamashi]

I dunno what it is exactly, but something about DK's design bothers me
It's between either the eyes or that he looks kinda scrawny...

[Sonicsdimas]

Donkey kong cartton sucks.

[TheGameNinja]

KidsCo is a division of Saban. They've got Power Rangers and Digimon under their belt, except the seasons of both of those that Disney had... but Saban's got both back now.

[Hakudamashi]

This may be a tad offtopic, but what happened to DiC?

[jkid101094]

KidsCo is a division of Saban. They've got Power Rangers and Digimon under their belt, except the seasons of both of those that Disney had... but Saban's got both back now.

But does that mean KidsCo or Saban will have more control over the anime KidsCo has acquired? Also I've don't have any real memories of the Digimon anime. How close was it to the Japanese version?

[TheGameNinja]

But does that mean KidsCo or Saban will have more control over the anime KidsCo has acquired? Also I've don't have any real memories of the Digimon anime. How close was it to the Japanese version?

I don't know who would have more control. As far as I know, this is the first time Saban's used KidsCo. Maybe it's just a name?

As for Digimon, they mostly stuck to the source material. The first two seasons got a few rewrites, but not so much that it's bad (but a lot of lame jokes inserted). The story was always the same as the Japanese though. I think the only time they screwed with Digimon was with the movie.

[jkid101094]

As for Digimon, they mostly stuck to the source material. The first two seasons got a few rewrites, but not so much that it's bad (but a lot of lame jokes inserted). The story was always the same as the Japanese though. I think the only time they screwed with Digimon was with the movie.

This makes me a bit less skeptic. So long as they don't pull 4Kids' localization act back out things shouldn't go too badly. I'd love to see DBZK and Sonic X redone removing some of 4kids' stupid edits.

[Hakudamashi]

This makes me a bit less skeptic. So long as they don't pull 4Kids' localization act back out things shouldn't go too badly. I'd love to see DBZK and Sonic X redone removing some of 4kids' stupid edits.

That is if they re-edit them at all...

[jkid101094]

This may be a tad offtopic, but what happened to DiC?

"The company was also known as The Incredible World of DiC, DiC. Audiovisuel, DiC Enterprises, DIC Animation City and DIC Productions. In 2008, the studio closed its doors, and was reallocated to Cookie Jar Entertainment."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DIC_Entertainment

Cookie Jar is on, though. My sister watches it every Sunday or Saturday, I believe.

That is if they re-edit them at all...

I never said they would, however, 4Kids left marks that don't deserve to stay there.

[TheGameNinja]

This makes me a bit less skeptic. So long as they don't pull 4Kids' localization act back out things shouldn't go too badly. I'd love to see DBZK and Sonic X redone removing some of 4kids' stupid edits.

Nicktoons' edit of Kai is pretty much uncut, less so than DBZ was back in the day. Maybe they'll use that version?

[jkid101094]

Nicktoons' edit of Kai is pretty much uncut, less so than DBZ was back in the day. Maybe they'll use that version?

Do they even have the rights to that version?

[TheGameNinja]

Do they even have the rights to that version?

Huh, hadn't thought of that... I'm sure Funimation would give it to them over the more censored version though.

[jkid101094]

Huh, hadn't thought of that... I'm sure Funimation would give it to them over the more censored version though.

Would they have to go through Nicktoons too?

[billyhatcher312]

Would they have to go through Nicktoons too?

i think 4 Kids should stay on because nick doesnt have much anime

[SonicNo1Fanatic]

Yahoo!!!!! 4Kids is dead; I'm glad that KidsCo. have got the rights to the shows 4Kids messed up, now they can fix them up.

[billyhatcher312]

Yahoo!!!!! 4Kids is dead; I'm glad that KidsCo. have got the rights to the shows 4Kids messed up, now they can fix them up.

DUDE WTF WHY DO U HATE 4Kids TV they made alot of the anime on the shows we see alot too

[Tanassy]

Anything with "Kid" in the name will most likely butcher their release, given the chance.

[TheGameNinja]

DUDE WTF WHY DO U HATE 4Kids TV they made alot of the anime on the shows we see alot too

No, they did not make the anime. They dubbed the English versions and censored most of their shows a lot. Not everything they did was awful, but their recent stuff was pretty bad.

[Hakudamashi]

No, they did not make the anime. They dubbed the English versions and censored most of their shows a lot. Not everything they did was awful, but their recent stuff was pretty bad.

Sounds like CAPCOM... hah.

[Super Sonic Boom]

Sounds like CAPCOM... hah.

Teehee, the company everyone loves to hate but still gives them attention. Sounds about right.

[Hakudamashi]

They had more in common than I thought...

[billyhatcher312]

they still show on the CW 39

[TheGameNinja]

they still show on the CW 39

Yeah, on the 25th, that block becomes Vortexx. That's Saban's block. As of the 25th, 4kids may as well be nonexistent.

http://soniczoneforum.com/index.php?topic=26359.0

[shadowDOESrock]

So, in theory SEGA now has the rights to Sonic X again and could in theory re-dub Sonic X with the current VA's and that Uncut.


Ohyesplease.

[Jordan teh Echidna]

America?

-leaves topic-

[TheGameNinja]

So, in theory SEGA now has the rights to Sonic X again and could in theory re-dub Sonic X with the current VA's and that Uncut.


Ohyesplease.

Actually, Vortexx is airing Sonic X now. I don't know what the deal with the rights is so I can't anwer that.

[billyhatcher312]

Well recently 4Kids was sued (over Yu-Gi-Oh! Zexal, no less) resulting in the company becoming bankrupt after almost 50 years of activity. 4Kids wasn't always terrible (they were responsible for the first seasons of Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh! after all) however, it is no secret to the anime fan base that they're recent works were not as great.

So now with 4Kids kicking the bucket the rights to several anime (or, at least they're showing rights in the US) have been divided between several other companies. Does this, however, mean that the shows will be better off?

According to Wikipedia a company called KidsCo aquired the rights to Dragon Ball Z, Sonic X and Cubix. The name KidsCo may not ring any bells at first, which is understandable. In the past, however, KidsCo has obtained the rights to several other shows you may know such as The Super Mario Bros. Super Show, Sonic Underground, SATam, The Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog and Donkey Kong Country, as well as other well known children's shows such as The Magic Schoolbus and Franklin. What worries me as that the list of shows they've handled before doesn't include any anime whatsoever, mostly concerning American children's shows. While it's true that the shows they've acquired are already dubbed they could still make changes, no? KidsCo also acquired the 4Kids Saturday Morning television block so it's possibe some of the aforementioned shows could make their way back to television.

4K Acquisition Corp acquired the rights to the Yu-Gi-Oh! franchise. Luckily, for those of you who don't know, 4K is part of Konami, the guys who not only make games such as Metal Gear Solid, but the YGO card game as well.

So are things looking up for anime? Or have things just gone from bad to worse?

I fucken hate those assholes because they're running anime for America so I think that things have gotten much much worse

[Shinigami]

Personally, I wasn't all that big a fan of 4Kids, though i give them credit for the original YuGiOh and also, the first 8 seasons of pokemon; they did a good job with those. after that..eh..I dunno. they just didn't do quite as well of a job as they could have with other shows..Sonic X being a prime example.

anyway since they're gone, I guess that just means other dubbing companies like VIZ media and FUNimation will just pick up the slack.

[billyhatcher312]

Personally, I wasn't all that big a fan of 4Kids, though i give them credit for the original YuGiOh and also, the first 8 seasons of pokemon; they did a good job with those. after that..eh..I dunno. they just didn't do quite as well of a job as they could have with other shows..Sonic X being a prime example.

anyway since they're gone, I guess that just means other dubbing companies like VIZ media and FUNimation will just pick up the slack.

I loved 4kids and sonic x

[SirnaqTheEchidna]

I can't believe Donkey Kong had a show. It looks... disturbing at best. Especially DK. I just want to know why there seemed to be a TV show for everything before. I guess they thought they could make money, but it was just a bad idea.

[PhantomTrevo]

4Kids is Dead?  How long was I gone for?  Anyways, I wonder if KidsCo is in the US?  If so, what channel is it on?  I MISS Donkey Kong Country, and all the other good Nintendo/Sega shows.

[TheGameNinja]

4Kids is Dead?  How long was I gone for?  Anyways, I wonder if KidsCo is in the US?  If so, what channel is it on?  I MISS Donkey Kong Country, and all the other good Nintendo/Sega shows.

KidsCo is a division of Saban. They currently run the Vortexx block which replaced 4Kids's block on The CW. So it's on The CW on Saturday mornings.

[billyhatcher312]

KidsCo is a division of Saban. They currently run the Vortexx block which replaced 4Kids's block on The CW. So it's on The CW on Saturday mornings.

i hate the name Vortexx its a really shitty name for the CW block in the morning
Post Merge: December 21, 2012, 09:23:24 AM
now they fucken stole transforms prime from the HUB channel so they really suck ass

[Hakudamashi]

now they fucken stole transforms prime from the HUB channel so they really suck ass

Yes, how dare Transformers Prime be watched and loved by a wider audience

[TheGameNinja]

i hate the name Vortexx its a really shitty name for the CW block in the morning
Post Merge: December 21, 2012, 09:23:24 AM
now they fucken stole transforms prime from the HUB channel so they really suck ass

They didn't steal it. It's still on The Hub. It's just also on CW. The Hub is a network that not everyone gets, but nearly everyone probably gets CW. This is kinda a good thing. :/

[eastport]

This is the best news I've heard all day. Maybe now we can stop getting these piece of crap dubs, like one piece.

[Megaman123]

At least the abomination known as 4kids is no more. Well, I hope KidsCo. does well.

[Dracoslythe]

I find it funny that my pride and joy is the reason 4kids is screwed lol.
Silly Zexal.

It's about time.
4kids had it's jewels, but quality has decreased recently :c

[billyhatcher312]

I find it funny that my pride and joy is the reason 4kids is screwed lol.
Silly Zexal.

It's about time.
4kids had it's jewels, but quality has decreased recently :c

hey draco ur an asshole because 4 kids had great tv shows so id shut it if i were u

[Dracoslythe]

hey draco ur an asshole because 4 kids had great tv shows so id shut it if i were u

I don't know if I should laugh or cry or both



Alright, I'm going to pick your ridiculous sentence apart piece by piece.  Ignoring the grammar, of course.

hey draco ur an asshole

Why yes, I am!  Thanks for noticing, sugartits xoxo

4 kids had great tv shows

Yes, they did!  I admit that.  I even say that in my post:  "4kids had it's jewels, but quality has decreased recently"

so id shut it if i were u

Or what?
I don't like empty threats, babe.

All I did was voice an opinion and all you seemed to read from that was "LOLOLOLOL 4KIDZ SUXXXX".
Which was, despite what you think I said, not what I said at all.

[Green Mii]

4Kids was my childhood. But, finding out about their...recent stuff, it's somewhat bittersweet to see them go.

[billyhatcher312]

even the 4kidstv.com site is gonoff of the internet and also their youtube account

[Dax7]

I'm glad 4Kids is gone, what they did to Sonic X and One Piece with their censorship really sucks. I hope some other company picks up anime series and makes better dubs out of them.

[billyhatcher312]

I'm glad 4Kids is gone, what they did to Sonic X and One Piece with their censorship really sucks. I hope some other company picks up anime series and makes better dubs out of them.

fuck u dude yu-gi oh is a 4kids tv orginal series so i watched that show every day now theyre just showing shit and the fucken site 4kidstv.com is gone too 

[Hakudamashi]

They're racist and say kids don't read, f*ck 'em.

[billyhatcher312]

They're racist and say kids don't read, f*ck 'em.

what do u mean?

[TheGameNinja]

fuck u dude yu-gi oh is a 4kids tv orginal series so i watched that show every day now theyre just showing shit and the fucken site 4kidstv.com is gone too 

Yu-Gi-Oh! is not a "4kids tv orginal series", it was made by Studio Gallop. 4kids just dubbed it. Yu-Gi-Oh! is still on the air, the original is on Nicktoons now too. I have no idea why you're so angry about this. Vortexx is basically the EXACT SAME THING IN ALMOST EVERY WAY.

I'm glad 4Kids is gone, what they did to Sonic X and One Piece with their censorship really sucks. I hope some other company picks up anime series and makes better dubs out of them.

Funimation's got One Piece now and their dub is great.

[Hakudamashi]

Funimation's got One Piece now and their dub is great.

They need to go back to dubbing the openings.

[billyhatcher312]

Yu-Gi-Oh! is not a "4kids tv orginal series", it was made by Studio Gallop. 4kids just dubbed it. Yu-Gi-Oh! is still on the air, the original is on Nicktoons now too. I have no idea why you're so angry about this. Vortexx is basically the EXACT SAME THING IN ALMOST EVERY WAY.

Funimation's got One Piece now and their dub is great.

ok i guess but they shouldnt show transformers prime because i saw every fucken episode of the show on the hub and even on youtube too so i think they shouldnt show a hub series on vortexx

[HoNk]

Animes are cartoons no matter how you look at it.
They're just made in japan.
That's the literal meaning of "anime."
Plus most of those shows you listed are awesome.
I'm not worried a bit.
Plus there's always YouTube.

[ExcaliberSonic9897]

It means.... No more of Sonic fighting fucking trees!!!!

[Thunder7908]

Animes are cartoons no matter how you look at it.
They're just made in japan.
That's the literal meaning of "anime."
Plus most of those shows you listed are awesome.
I'm not worried a bit.
Plus there's always YouTube.

HoNk you do make a point. YouTube always helps us when we can't watch cartoons/animes, movies, etc. I go on YouTube more than any other site.

[billyhatcher312]

HoNk you do make a point. YouTube always helps us when we can't watch cartoons/animes, movies, etc. I go on YouTube more than any other site.

i download all the anime shows i see from torrents so i dont have to watch them on fucken youtube

[TheGameNinja]

I buy (almost) all the anime I watch so that my money goes on to support the industry.

[billyhatcher312]

I buy (almost) all the anime I watch so that my money goes on to support the industry.

i download them from torrents instead of buying them

[shadowDOESrock]

i download them from torrents instead of buying them

Please die.

[TheGameNinja]

i download them from torrents instead of buying them

Too many people do that. Anime distribution companies in North America have been dropping like flies because too many people just download fansubs instead of buying.

[Manic]

It Means Sonic,Sonia,And Queen Aleana Will Never Be Seen Again. D:

[Thunder7908]

I actually wouldn't download or buy them. First of all, I wouldn't download animes because they might waste my space on my computer. Second of all, I wouldn't buy them because it costs some money. There are some animes for download for Plus members.

[Hakudamashi]

Too many people do that. Anime distribution companies in North America have been dropping like flies because too many people just download fansubs instead of buying.

I watch anime via Hulu and Netflix, does that help?

[TheGameNinja]

I watch anime via Hulu and Netflix, does that help?

Yes.

[Hakudamashi]

Yes.

Bitchin
Cause after seeing the quality difference, I couldn't go back to "anime sites". Now that I know it helps the industry, I see no reason to go back to fansubs, some of them are downright atrocious, especially those that REFUSE to translate "baka"...

[shadowDOESrock]

I would watch Anime legally if i was allowed to.

[Hakudamashi]

I would watch Anime legally if i was allowed to.

When you say "allowed to"...

[TheGameNinja]

When you say "allowed to"...

Region lockouts, I'd assume. It's a very stupid thing that shouldn't exist anymore.

[Hakudamashi]

Region lockouts, I'd assume. It's a very stupid thing that shouldn't exist anymore.

Then do what I do and get a VPN

[TheGameNinja]

If region locking is the problem...

[jkid101094]

I see someone else watches Household Hacker...

[billyhatcher312]

i hate the shitty reagon lock crap video games i understand but tv shows thats bullshit

[Hakudamashi]

If region locking is the problem...

All of my thanks.

[shadowDOESrock]

If region locking is the problem...

I love you TGN.
I love you.
I want you inside me.

I wish HD was possible, though.

[billyhatcher312]

I love you TGN.
I love you.
I want you inside me.

I wish HD was possible, though.

WTF kyo

[Hakudamashi]

I wish HD was possible, though.

The quality is good enough, I'm just happy to be rid of the VPN ^_^

[billyhatcher312]

The quality is good enough, I'm just happy to be rid of the VPN ^_^

what do u mean by VPN

[Hakudamashi]

what do u mean by VPN

V______ Private Network. It's a paid service that tricks the internet in believing we're American