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Title: Eli's Adventures in Clannad Land
Post by: Elija2 on January 25, 2015, 12:06:01 PM
So Haku was kind enough to read through Lucifer and the Biscuit Hammer and I felt that I owed him a solid since he actually finished reading it (fuck you, Kyo). He praises the Clannad anime so I felt like that'd be a good pick to watch through. I have no idea if I'm gonna watch the entire series or just the first season, or even if I'll quit before that out of disgust. Only time will tell!

I only watched the first episode so far but...this show is weird. I can't tell if it's supposed to be grounded in reality or not. There's ghost girls, a super-strong schoolgirl that can jump a mile into the air, and a weird girl with McDonald's arches in her hair who apparently knows how to make wishes come true. That said, the characters are actually pretty well done. I think I recall Haku praising the characters and I see what he means. Even when the show uses clichéd anime tropes like the super-shy girl who is totally gonna be the main character's love interest, it does it in a way that isn't totally shallow.

It's still way too early for me to judge the show but I think I'm gonna like it. Has anyone else other than Haku seen the anime?
Title: Re: Eli's Adventures in Clannad Land
Post by: jkid101094 on January 25, 2015, 12:09:26 PM
He wants me to watch it too but I'm the much less reliable person. I'm getting sick again though so anime time should be right around the corner.
Title: Re: Eli's Adventures in Clannad Land
Post by: Hakudamashi on January 26, 2015, 01:27:03 AM
It'd be great if you stuck around for After Story, but that'd be like 50 episodes, so we'll see.

Also, Tomoya and Tomoyo are my faves.

And just a heads up, yes, there are supernatural elements in the anime as you have seen, but it stays pretty grounded for the most part.
Title: Re: Eli's Adventures in Clannad Land
Post by: Hakudamashi on January 31, 2015, 11:46:30 AM
Is it?
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Post by: Hakudamashi on January 31, 2015, 12:18:25 PM
Well I like it.
Title: Re: Eli's Adventures in Clannad Land
Post by: Ioshyriku on February 02, 2015, 11:42:25 PM
Wikipedia says it's Drama, Fantasy and Romance.
Quote from: Elija2 on February 02, 2015, 08:10:46 PM
it feels like a harem.
That might be because it's based on a visual novel.
Title: Re: Eli's Adventures in Clannad Land
Post by: Hakudamashi on February 03, 2015, 11:45:53 AM
It's not a harem.

But because it's adapted from a Visual Novel with multiple routes, it's gonna feel like one especially in the beginning.
Title: Re: Eli's Adventures in Clannad Land
Post by: Hakudamashi on February 03, 2015, 12:12:56 PM
There are 3 or 2 side 25 min OVAs  where he goes with other girls, if you're interested.

And in the VN, he can also go gay for Sunohara.
Title: Re: Eli's Adventures in Clannad Land
Post by: Hakudamashi on February 03, 2015, 12:19:20 PM
Your guess is as good as mine.
Title: Re: Eli's Adventures in Clannad Land
Post by: Hakudamashi on February 08, 2015, 03:55:36 PM
He has his reason.

Title: Re: Eli's Adventures in Clannad Land
Post by: Hakudamashi on February 08, 2015, 05:15:01 PM
No and no.
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Post by: Hakudamashi on February 08, 2015, 05:23:52 PM
Cause she's the first girl you meet

Y'know, walking up the hill to school and there she is standing by herself randomly saying "Anpan"

Personally, I would have went with Tomoyo.
Title: Re: Eli's Adventures in Clannad Land
Post by: Hakudamashi on February 08, 2015, 05:40:39 PM
Hm?
I thought you were asking if she was obvious?

It's not like the VN forces her on you.

Well regardless, I like Nagisa, so whatevs.
Title: Re: Eli's Adventures in Clannad Land
Post by: Hakudamashi on February 08, 2015, 06:10:48 PM
Why is Assassin's Creed Unity not Assassin's Creed 5?

Yes, they are different paths.
Title: Re: Eli's Adventures in Clannad Land
Post by: Hakudamashi on February 08, 2015, 06:26:19 PM
If you're asking why they're separated in the first place, it's to do with air time.
Long running shows gotta pay for their slot on TV, so when it comes time that they want to either improve their animation or get new staff or something like that, they either gotta make the old team do filler, pay to have the show on re-runs, or give up their slot.

So what they do is opt to give up the slot of the old show, and secure that slot to replace it with the "new show" where they get their new managment n' stuff.

Other long running anime like One Piece and Rurouni Kenshin didn't have to do that cause either their management and or tools remain unchanged, or their popularity was soo high, that even if they gave up their slot to be on hiatus, they could easily get it back.

That is my vague recollection of the explanation a friend gave me.
Title: Re: Eli's Adventures in Clannad Land
Post by: Hakudamashi on February 08, 2015, 06:37:02 PM
Well the VN expansion itself is called "Clannad:After Story", so maybe they wanted to be name faithful n' stuff.
Title: Re: Eli's Adventures in Clannad Land
Post by: Hakudamashi on February 09, 2015, 01:25:30 AM
No, he's well aware of their affection for him, he has his reason for not wanting a girlfriend, one that I personally can understand
He strings them along cause he's a jerk.
Don't feel sorry for Sunohara.
I disliked 5 Cm/s Cause Tadaki was a little bitch the entirety of when Akarai left cause of the decisions he made

And I am aware of that.
Title: Re: Eli's Adventures in Clannad Land
Post by: Hakudamashi on February 09, 2015, 10:23:12 AM
He helps out a lot, and he will continue to help out plenty, but don't feel sorry for him, more on that in After Story.

Too bad for her.

The very last episode of part 1.
Title: Re: Eli's Adventures in Clannad Land
Post by: Hakudamashi on February 09, 2015, 10:46:46 AM
Well, there's the OVA where he does get with Kyou, so you can watch that when you're done.
Title: Re: Eli's Adventures in Clannad Land
Post by: Hakudamashi on February 10, 2015, 02:42:42 AM
It's a magical pig.

And yes, all those things get addressed in After Story, don't worry.

As for the other characters, they get plenty of screentime for the first half of After Story, but the second half focuses heavily on Tomoya and Nagisa, so be prepared for that.

So I take it you'd watch the OVA when you're done?

Also, if I recall correctly, I think the affection was one sided. Pretty sure it was Tomoya who was into Nagisa, but Nagisa thought nothing of it, he was just a good friend.
Title: Re: Eli's Adventures in Clannad Land
Post by: Hakudamashi on February 10, 2015, 05:05:21 AM
But I'm pretty sure it was as a really good reliable friend, not romantic.
Title: Re: Eli's Adventures in Clannad Land
Post by: Hakudamashi on February 10, 2015, 02:34:12 PM
I think the important thing to take away from this is that the hand is indeed apart of the body.
Title: Re: Eli's Adventures in Clannad Land
Post by: Hakudamashi on February 10, 2015, 02:46:06 PM
I cared...
Title: Re: Eli's Adventures in Clannad Land
Post by: Hakudamashi on February 10, 2015, 02:54:58 PM
Quote from: Hakudamashi on February 10, 2015, 02:34:12 PM
I think the important thing to take away from this is that the hand is indeed apart of the body.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZQhH8E9qUI

Man, you just watched this.
Title: Re: Eli's Adventures in Clannad Land
Post by: Hakudamashi on February 10, 2015, 02:59:08 PM
Dat memory bank.
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Post by: Hakudamashi on February 10, 2015, 06:20:28 PM
Quote from: Elija2 on February 10, 2015, 05:56:30 PM
Goddamnit Haku, now all I want to do in my free time is watch more Clannad. Thanks a lot.
I'm sorry?

Quote from: Elija2 on February 10, 2015, 05:56:30 PM
I think Tomoya is a compulsive liar.
You're only figuring this out now?
Title: Re: Eli's Adventures in Clannad Land
Post by: Hakudamashi on February 10, 2015, 06:38:27 PM
Well the first few episodes are them fucking about in their last days of high school, so it's kinda aimless for now.
Title: Re: Eli's Adventures in Clannad Land
Post by: Hakudamashi on February 11, 2015, 02:02:17 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djLCVBad2Dk
This dialogue sounds pretty frickin creepy out of context.
Title: Re: Eli's Adventures in Clannad Land
Post by: Ioshyriku on February 11, 2015, 09:54:44 AM
Quote from: Hakudamashi on February 11, 2015, 02:02:17 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djLCVBad2Dk
This dialogue sounds pretty frickin creepy out of context.
Is that the official dub?
Title: Re: Eli's Adventures in Clannad Land
Post by: Ioshyriku on February 11, 2015, 10:18:58 AM
It's good, but some of the voices seem a bit off.
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Post by: Hakudamashi on February 11, 2015, 11:54:46 AM
Quote from: Elija2 on February 11, 2015, 09:37:49 AM
Man, that street gang story arc was dumb as hell.
Rainbows tho.

Quote from: Elija2 on February 11, 2015, 09:37:49 AM
So, like, are we ever gonna find out what's up with Nagisa's illness? This is the second time she's had to redo a year because of it. Maybe they should figure out what's wrong with her before forcing her to do another year that she might not even finish.
Didn't you already hear about the illness? Y'know, she went out in the snow?

Quote from: Elija2 on February 11, 2015, 09:37:49 AM
Tomoya's kind of a jerk for ditching Nagisa to do his job when Yusuke was able to cover for him. He'd seriously rather work than hang out with the love of his life?
Hey man, hanging out with your girl doesn't pay the bills.
Title: Re: Eli's Adventures in Clannad Land
Post by: Hakudamashi on February 11, 2015, 12:24:24 PM
Quote from: Elija2 on February 11, 2015, 12:21:44 PM
Yeah but, like, how is that still causing her to get a months-long flu years after the fact?
I could go into the biology of it, but instead I'll just say the wizard did it.

Title: Re: Eli's Adventures in Clannad Land
Post by: Hakudamashi on February 11, 2015, 12:36:59 PM
Nah, I'm good.

Tho I will admit it's a work of fiction for it to last this long.
That or Nagisa is born with a deficiency we don't know about.
Title: Re: Eli's Adventures in Clannad Land
Post by: Hakudamashi on February 11, 2015, 12:47:51 PM
Or maybe the local doctors are just as confuzzled.
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Post by: Hakudamashi on February 12, 2015, 02:06:32 AM
Quote from: Elija2 on February 11, 2015, 09:52:38 PM
Sunohara with black hair tho. And why the heck is blonde hair on a guy not socially acceptable but purple hair on a girl is? That's not even a natural hair colour!
Because Kyou and Ryou didn't dye theirs :P

Title: Re: Eli's Adventures in Clannad Land
Post by: Hakudamashi on February 12, 2015, 08:05:54 AM
Yes he did, black is his natural colour, he dyed it blonde.

You need to understand that every Asian person ever has black hair, maybe brown once in a decade.
Why would they create a fictional world where everyone has black hair?
Title: Re: Eli's Adventures in Clannad Land
Post by: Hakudamashi on February 13, 2015, 10:17:57 AM
With true love, you can do it anywhere, and everywhere.
Title: Re: Eli's Adventures in Clannad Land
Post by: Hakudamashi on February 14, 2015, 01:55:37 AM
Everything comes full circle.
Title: Re: Eli's Adventures in Clannad Land
Post by: Hakudamashi on February 14, 2015, 05:42:00 AM
Because she wanted to breed her own love baby man.
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Post by: Hakudamashi on February 14, 2015, 06:26:02 AM
Yeah
That really was everyone's fault.
Title: Re: Eli's Adventures in Clannad Land
Post by: Hakudamashi on February 15, 2015, 06:12:24 AM
Well, you probably might enjoy the very last thing you need to watch.
Title: Re: Eli's Adventures in Clannad Land
Post by: Hakudamashi on February 15, 2015, 01:11:59 PM
Quote from: Elija2 on February 15, 2015, 07:13:01 AM
Wait, hold on. Were all those times that Nagisa and Tomoya were remembering the play actually times when they were remembering the alternate timeline where Nagisa died? Is this show pulling a 999?
Are you not entertained?

So, how bad was it? Now that you seen all the main stuff.
Title: Re: Eli's Adventures in Clannad Land
Post by: Hakudamashi on February 15, 2015, 05:48:36 PM
I see, fortunately I didn't put soo much thought into the ending, I got that Tomoya collected enough orbs to have a wish granted, and that was enough for me.

Well, glad to know you didn't fucking hate it like I thought you would.
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Post by: Hakudamashi on February 15, 2015, 06:07:14 PM
Because I'm a very pessimistic nervous wreck.
I thought you figured that out.

So how was the Kyou episode?
Title: Re: Eli's Adventures in Clannad Land
Post by: Hakudamashi on February 15, 2015, 06:15:53 PM
Oh, I'm over that, I'm talking in general.
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Post by: Hakudamashi on February 16, 2015, 02:30:13 AM
Pretty much.
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Post by: Hakudamashi on February 16, 2015, 04:17:32 AM
I'm not going to do that, ever.
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Post by: Hakudamashi on February 17, 2015, 01:50:01 AM
Happy to be of no help.
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Post by: Hakudamashi on February 17, 2015, 12:45:12 PM
20 years in the making.
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Post by: Hakudamashi on February 17, 2015, 02:08:14 PM
Probably not.